Tuesday, November 11, 1969
Suzuki-rōshi: If you—if you have some question, I am happy to answer for the question. And in that way, if necessary, I will refer to the Lotus Sūtra. Hai.
Student A: What is “no outflows” mean in the Lotus Sūtra?
Suzuki-rōshi: Hmm? No?
Student A: “No outflows.”
Suzuki-rōshi: No outflows. “No outflows” means, you know, by—because our practice is not, you know, sincere or not complete, there are many leakage [laughs] in your life and practice. That [“no outflows”] is the opposite of to have many leakage. It means mostly desires, you know: to let your desire, you know, as it goes this way, that way. That is leakage. And to control our desires [is] like to build a big leather [?] ball [?] without any leakage. That is “no outflow.” It is more, you know, more arhat kind [of] practice: very, maybe, negative practice. Some other questions? Hai.
Student B: In the Lotus Sūtra they say the Buddha-seed arises from conditions.
Suzuki-rōshi: Buddha’s what?
Student B: The Buddha-seed—
Suzuki-rōshi: Seed. Uh-huh.
Student B: —arises from conditions.
Student B: Do you know what that means—what they mean there?
Suzuki-rōshi: What—conditions—seed—if you, you know, sew a seed, seed will be the cause of—because of the seed, of course, plants comes out. And it will have fruits—flower or fruits or branches. But without aid of rain or manure it will not, you know, grow. It means, you know, aid or things, you know, result by seed and by aid of something. I think you—your culture put more emphasis on aid. If aid is good, you know, result will be—you have good fruits. And how to improve the social condition is the most important point in your culture. But some other culture put emphasis on seed more, maybe like Communism.