Monday, November 11, 1968
[If you want to know what buddha-nature is] … which is not possible to know what it is—but if you want to realize it, you should wait until it comes to you. If you know—if you want to talk about [that] which is not possible to talk about, present some words to me.
Claude Dalenberg: Dōchō-rōshi: Incessant change and evanescence everywhere. Life is so short. What is the most important—most important thing to do?
Suzuki-rōshi: To continue everyday practice forever.
Claude: Thank you.
Suzuki-rōshi: Good point.
Ed Brown: Dōchō-rōshi, thank you very much.
Suzuki-rōshi: Thank you very much.
Jim Norton: Dōchō-rōshi, if I look at the moon, on one hand I may think, “This is the moon.” And on the other hand I may think, “This is my own eye.” Is this Nirmānakāya and Sambhogakāya?
Suzuki-rōshi: Yes, it is. The moon—you see by your eyes, and your eyes is the—are not different, actually. So that is Nirmānakāya Buddha.
Jim: Thank you very much.
Jeff Williamson: Dōchō-rōshi, recently in my zazen I have been putting forth every bit of effort that I can find. And before too long—before too long that I have been sitting there, I think that I should slow down, that I am trying too hard to have good practice. And then I think, “No, I am not trying too hard. I am putting forth my very best effort.” And I really do not understand what you mean when you say, “Put forth your very best effort, but be careful that you do not try too hard.” I do not know where to draw a line. I don’t know when I’m doing one thing and when I’m doing the other. Could you please say something that would help me now?
Suzuki-rōshi: “Try your best effort” means not to lose your way. Always keep up with your practice. That is what I mean. Of course, zazen practice is difficult because we should reject the two extreme. While you are practicing, it—or while you are keep up with your practice—everyday practice, you will find out how to reject the two extreme. So when you become frustrated, when you have problem, when you are discouraged, at that time you should try your best effort to resume your own practice. That is what I mean.