Suzuki Roshi Transcripts

Sunday, March 09, 1969

Blue Cliff Record #3

Soko-ji, San Francisco

I am glad to see you from here [laughs]. My organ [?][1] may not be so good yet, but I am-today I'm testing, you know, just testing. [Laughs, laughter.] I don't know if it works or not. Whether it works or not, or if I speak or not, is not such a big problem for us. Whatever happen to us, it is something which it should happen-which should happen. So purpose of our practice [is] to have this kind of complete composure in our everyday life.

Some of Japanese member, you know, thought because I am-I am practicing always zazen, "he not-he will not be catch cold. [Laughs.] He will not suffer from flu. But it was funny for him to MORE ...

Monday, March 10, 1969

Nansen's "Everyday Mind Is Dao"

... it was very, very cold. It was November? I don't remember exactly. November or-he said [?]-I told you [him], you know:

"Don't wear so-so much clothing. Even though we wear many clothing, you will not be so warm. And if your practice is sincere enough, even though you do not wear so much, you will not be so cold. If you are involved in intense practice, you know, actually you don't feel so cold."

And so he appeared in zendo [with] only one thin shirt [laughs, laughter]. And he practiced. I said to him, "It may be too thin. You have to wear little bit more " [laughs, laughter].

But he say, "It's all right." And he sits [with] just one shirt MORE ...

Saturday, March 15, 1969

Find Out for Yourself

In your zazen, perhaps you will have many difficulties or problems. But when you have some problem, it is necessary for you to find out-try to find out by yourself why you have problem. Before you ask someone, it is necessary for you to try to find out why.

Usually your way of study is to master it as soon as possible and by some best way. So before you think you may ask someone why you have some problem. But that kind of way may be very good for your usual life, but if you want to study Zen, it doesn't help so MORE ...

Sunday, March 16, 1969


Our practice should be based on the idea of selflessness. This selflessness is very difficult [to] understand. If you try to be selflessness, you know, that is already selfish idea. [Laughs.] We don't know what to do, what-how to cope with it. Perhaps you may-you must have tried various way, but selflessness is not something which you can try, you know. It-selflessness should-should be there when you do not try anything. Selflessness is not something which you can be aware of. But for us, we have to-it is necessary to try and to know-it is necessary to know how difficult it is.

And because it is difficult, you want some guidance or teacher. Maybe when you have good teacher and when you are practicing with MORE ...

Sunday, March 30, 1969

Ordinary and Holy

[The point of][1] ... my talk is just to give you some help in your practice. So it is just help, you know. So there's, as I always say, there is no need for you to remember what I said as something definite, you know. I'm just trying to help you, so it is just support of your [laughs] practice. So if you stick to it, it means that you stick to the support-not, you know, tree itself. You know, a tree, when it is strong enough, it may want some support. But the most important one is the tree itself, not support.

I have, you know, I am one tree, and each one of you are a tree of itself. And by itself, you should, you know, stand up. And when MORE ...


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